The.45-70 rifle cartridge, also known as 45-70 Government, was developed at the U.S. Army's Springfield Armory for use in the Springfield Model 1873, which is known to collectors as the "Trapdoor Springfield." The new cartridge was a replacement for the stop-gap.50-70 Government cartridge, which had been adopted in 1866, one year after the end of10817 posts · Joined 2003. #2 · Jun 27, 2005. I think Lil Gun is too fast of a burning powder for the 45-70. It is a high pressure powder. If you load it to little you cause a high pressure problem, if you load it to much you cause a high pressure problem. Hodgdon does not even list a load with it. Personally I would not use Lil-gun in my 45-70.This is the only powder I used when loading my Colt in .44 Special and .44 Mag. The Lyman book I just picked up has loads for the 45-70 using 4227. Heres an example of pressure differences between 4227 and 322. For a 400 gr. cast and using 31.0 gr. of 4227, CUP pressure is 21,400.May 21, 2006 · Those powders are pushing the slow end of utility for the 45-70. X-Terminator is a better suited powder. Although suitable loads for the 45-70 could be developed with TAC, it is evident that the two sources I know of chose X-Terminator to develop loads for the 45-70. You learn something new everyday whether you want to or not. Still below the max load according to Nosler. For 405gr Lead heads I use 40gr max of H4198. My rifle is a Browning made Winchester 1886, capable of handling the same loads as the Marlin 1895. I've found a table quoting that Viht N130 is an equivalent to 4198 so might look into that a bit further.EsoxLucius. Accurate 1680 is very similar to the 4198s and Reloder 7 being on the "fast" side of powders for the 45-70. According burn rate charts, some have Accurate 1680 closer to the 4227s than the 4198s, while others have it closer to the 4198s than the 4227s. There is no reason why it wouldn't produce impressive velocities in the …Introduced to the world just 1 year after the invention of .45 Colt, .45-70 Gov’t reigns supreme in the world of straight-walled cartridges to this day. Its name is derived from the bullet diameter (.45 in), the weight of the black powder used when it was created (70 grains), and the fact that it was designed and used by the U.S. ARMY in 1873.LApm9 posted this 24 October 2022. I had a puzzling experience with my .45-70 reduced loads today and would appreciate any analysis of the situation that you may be able to offer. The bullet vendor offered a table of loads supposedly supplied by Lyman. The bullet is said to be Lyman #457130 (150 gr.).568 posts · Joined 2004. #11 · Nov 15, 2020. I used up a 1000 Winchester LP magnum primers in my 45-70, no issues and in reality you can use them for most 45-70 loads as they are normally used in rounds that make pressures to 40,000 PSI. Not many of us load the 45-70 that hot. Save Share.Alum powder is not available at Walgreens, according to its website, as of 2015. Alum powder is not an available product online nor in-store at Walgreens. Alum powder is available ...Jun 24, 2018 · Hodgdon pyrodex or 777 loads for .45/70. I'm planning on getting a Pedersolli Sharps in .45/70. I would like to use a BP substitute, mostly because of the UK laws about storing black powder. To use black powder I would have to get an explosives license and a special box to store the powder in. Some swear by black powder, others use Pyrodex or 777. In the rifle cartridge section of this pamphlet, IMR listed almost all, and I mean almost all the SR and IMR powders for every round they offered data. For the 45-70 it lists load and pressure data for what I thought of as inappropriate powders like 4064, 4895, 4350, 4320 and 4831. The 4831 data showed really attractive TD or BP level pressures ...EsoxLucius. Accurate 1680 is very similar to the 4198s and Reloder 7 being on the "fast" side of powders for the 45-70. According burn rate charts, some have Accurate 1680 closer to the 4227s than the 4198s, while others have it closer to the 4198s than the 4227s. There is no reason why it wouldn't produce impressive velocities in the …A little too slow in my experience Cartridge : .45-70 Govt. SAAMI Bullet : .458, 350, Hornady RN 4502 Useable Case Capaci: 59.374 grain H2O = 3.855 cm³ Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.550 inch = 64.77 mm Barrel Length : 18.5 inch = 469.9 mm Powder : Hodgdon VARGET Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, …10 Mar 2019 ... March 10, 2019. A visual and sound comparison. 545 lead/bp vs.150 grain M-2 Ball ammo. Thanks for watching. Powder. Mfgs. Velocities in a test barrel differ from a 4 4/5″ revolver by about 175. fps and from 7 1/2″ by 50 fps. Some of these velocities were shot in a 10″ or. a 14″ barrel, similar to a Thompson Contender. Recoil is severe with these. near MAX loads. You should consider 10% less for starting loads. However, with. 21,259. To use or not to use a filler in the 45-70 depends. It depend as it does with most other cartridges with cast bullets but also because the 45-70 can be loaded to 4 different levels with cast bullets. What applies within the parameters of one level may not apply within another level.4 Jan 2023 ... Correct me if I'm wrong, but most hunters today think of the 45-70 Govt. as a thumper. Bear protection. Good close-cover elk cartridge.While researching 45-70 loads I tried 5 varieties of Holy Black, Dupont Bulk smokless and yes Pyrodex in the 45-70. These loads were fired from my Uberti 1885, an original trapdoor 1879 and a Pedersoli Sharps. 55 grains by weight of Pyrodex r/s was the best PYRODEX load running from 4 down to 2 1/2" for 100 yard group in all rifles.Many VCs have said they are sitting out this year. They aren't -- they're funding their friends and committing funds to companies that don't exist. If you had to sum up the 2022 ve...Oct 18, 2020 · So my question is, out of the powders i have, all shown in the picture. What would be the best powder to use for reloading 45-70? (I only have large rifle primers cci #200/no magnums) I have two types of bullets for it. 525g, Hard Cast, WLN, w/Gas check and 350g, Hard Cast, LFN, w/Gas check They seem to be from "Beartooth bullets" The 45-70-500 Government had more developmental testing before the US Military adopted it for chambering in the Springfield rifle than any other US Military battle ... use of smokeless powder for greater energy. Military developments included the 45-56-405, carbine loading and 45-70-500, rifle loading, both the conventional round nose ...24 Feb 2018 ... Video über das Wiederladen von 45-70 Gov. Schwarzpulver-Patronen mit Wano Schwarzpulver, Starline-Hülsen und 330 Grain Bleigeschossen für ... This fast-burning rifle powder gives outstanding performance in cartridges like the 222 Remington, 221 Fireball, 45-70, and 450 Marlin. It is also outstanding in cartridges like the 444 Marlin and 7.62 X 39. Varmint shooters with small-bore cartridges love it. IMR recommends always consulting www.IMRReloading.com for the most accurate, up-to-date data. Available in 1-LB and 8-LB containers. My rifle is a Henry 45-70 lever action and I am going to be using it, primarily for bears and whitetail. I am going to try the Barnes tsx this year but normally prefer the heavier bullets in a 45-70. The bullets I have stocked up on are: - 300 grain Barnes tsx. - 350 grain Hornady and 350 grain Trophy Bonded Bearclaws. - 405 grain hard cast.196. I did some primer based testing today and came to two conclusions: 1. standard primers produce softer fouling. 2. at least with 70 grs of KIK 2F, federal magnum primers produce the best groups (by a long shot!). 3. standard large rifle primers produced the worst groups compared to magnum primers.All you can get in there, with the option of a few grains of some faster rifle powder next to the primer to get the whole thing lit off. H870 by itself in a 45-70 only manages about 900 fps. With 5 grains of 4759 or similar you can get about 1200 fps and a lot less unburnt powder being thrown around.Aug 19, 2014 · IMR 3031 powder is a good powder to start with. I guess it really depends on the firearm you're loading for. .45-70 Government. "Trapdoor" and replica rifles plus all modern rifles in good condition: 300 grain Hornady InterLock HP bullet, 52.0 grains of IMR 3031 powder, Federal 210 primer, Winchester case. MV 1,800 fps in 29.5" barrel. 25. It was my assumption that this is the same powder used in the factory LeverRevolution loads for 44 mag and 45/70 since the names and artwork are the same. Hornady LeverRevolution factory ammo does in fact work quite nicely in my 44 mag and 45/70 guns. It appears this is not the same powder, but this is quite confusing on ….45-70 Government (Modern Rifles) (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 18 loads. Using bullets from Sierra HP, Hornady JRN, Speer JFP. Powders include Hodgdon, IMR30 May 2019 ... As Vince said the 45-70 will be most accurate with black powder, I use either 2 or 3F, primarily Swiss no.3 (which is 2F). Some compression is ...As near as I can determine, H/IMR 4198 are considered the most efficient powders to use in high-end lever action handloads for 45-70 and 350-405-grain bullets. IMR 3031 is slightly slower burning powder than the 4198s. In .45-caliber lever actions I think this means it is better suited for: slightly larger powder capacity per bullet weight ...45/70 using 4895 powder. I follow a number of forums, many times as the posts pertain to cast bullet and recently I saw some posts about 45/70 loads using 4895. Hmmmmmmmmm! I am very satisfied with the results I'm currently getting with a 465gr Wide Flat Nose pushed to 1650fps by 47.5gr of H335. GREAT on deer and elk!Jan 19, 2024 · The recommendation for use of H335 in the 45-70 in level 2 & 3 rifles still stands, use the magnum primer especially with lighter weight jacketed bullet and heavier weight cast bullets. Larry Gibson. I agree, that's why I switched to IMR 4198 for the 45-70, it burns very clean and there is lots of data for it. Re: Powder for medium 45-70 loads. by piller » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:15 pm. I use IMR 3031 for my trapdoor level loads in .45-70 since I always keep some on hand for my .30-30 loads. It has always given good results for me and I have not tried many other powders for those 2 cartridges due to good accuracy and ease of finding IMR 3031 even …3901 posts · Joined 2020. #10 · Aug 26, 2021. IMR 3031 is said to be the most efficient powder for modern 45-70 loads. It is also about the easiest you can find at present. I bought it a both Bass Pro and Brownells this last year, I use it for many calibers. I use it for 300, 350 and 405 jacketed bullet loads.Testing out the performance of Alliant's Unique powder with some 45-70 bullets starting at 150 grains up to 525 grains. Very fast burning, light recoiling p... The .45-70 Govt is very effective out to around 150 yards with minimal bullet drop, but it’s capable of great accuracy and longer range shooting as well. Using modern, smokeless powder, most of the ammunition manufacturers currently produce a wide variety of loads of varying power for the .45-70. 8799 posts · Joined 2008. #6 · Jan 15, 2015. IMR4198 is my "go to" .45-70 powder. I don't use anything else. However, in the Huntsman,I use two fifty gr. Triple Seven pellets under a sabot with a 250 gr. XTP, and I can regulate the .45-70 to hit the same POI as the Huntsman. That cuts out a little second guessing.H335 is an excellent powder and is my "go to" powder for my 52-55 gr jacketed bullet 223/5.56 loads along with 125 - 150 gr jacketed bullets in the 30-30 and 308Ws. With cast, H335 is excellent as long as you have the bullet mass and pressure level so it ignites and burns efficiently. With your 45-70 loads that's where you are.Aug 11, 2014 · 522 posts · Joined 2013. #9 · Aug 12, 2014. i've loaded and shot a LOT of trail boss .45-70 cast boolit loads for 350, 405, 500 and 535 grains. the load formula is easy - start with 70% of the total tb powder that fits into the case with the bullet yer using - this is important as the bullet seat depth determines the powder volume in a 2.10 ... 24 Feb 2018 ... Video über das Wiederladen von 45-70 Gov. Schwarzpulver-Patronen mit Wano Schwarzpulver, Starline-Hülsen und 330 Grain Bleigeschossen für ...There are many Marlin M1895, H&R and Ruger single shots, etc. being unneccesarily under loaded due to this lack of understanding. 45-70 brass can easily be shot at 50K psi in an action designed for that pressure. Here are some 45-70 loads for a 405gr cast bullet, all just under 28K psi: Red Dot - 13.0 grs.Oct 22, 2020 · 3777 posts · Joined 2012. #4 · Oct 22, 2020. IMR3031 is THE smokeless powder for the 45-70. I use it in my Pedersoli Springfield Trapdoor. I don't believe I use buffers except w/ black powder. Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA-Life, the American Legion, and 50-year LEO w/ a 45ACP 1911. All my 1911s are in .45ACP & 10mm. The 45-70-500 Government had more developmental testing before the US Military adopted it for chambering in the Springfield rifle than any other US Military battle ... use of smokeless powder for greater energy. Military developments included the 45-56-405, carbine loading and 45-70-500, rifle loading, both the conventional round nose ...May 21, 2006 · Those powders are pushing the slow end of utility for the 45-70. X-Terminator is a better suited powder. Although suitable loads for the 45-70 could be developed with TAC, it is evident that the two sources I know of chose X-Terminator to develop loads for the 45-70. You learn something new everyday whether you want to or not. IMR-4350 for 45/70 Gov't. What is a good load and bullet type for the 45/50 gov't useing IMR-4350.I'll be shooting this load in the H&R 45/70 gov't barrel on a ultra hunter single shot rifle.These loads will be used mostly for whitetail deer hunting. You know handi rifles are like lays potato chip's with the chip's you can't eat just one same ...The long range load for my C Sharps 45-70 is 27 grains of 5744 under a Lyman 457125 which weighs 525 in 20/1. My mold has been lapped to drop at .459". My Sharps likes boolits seated to touch the lands (2.95" LOA). 25-28 grains of 5744 should get you in the 1200-1300fps range. Just have to find the node for your rifle.Its a great powder VERY versatile. It is made for a specific reason its a BULKY powder, initially perfect for SASS type shoots where folks wanted light loads in large cases like 44/40 & 45 Colt. But Versatile because its a full pressure powder, but one that offers lower velocities perfect for soft lead bullet loads. ANY straight case can use it.From what I can tell, Benchmarck is a little too slow to get the best velocities from a 405gr bullet. I'm sure it will do really well with the mid-400 grain range. 45-70 Loads. All loads used: Brass - Starline. Primer - Rem 9-1/2. Bullet - Remington 405 gr. Gun - Marlin Guide Gun - 18-3/4" barrel - 3x9 scope.H335 is an excellent powder and is my "go to" powder for my 52-55 gr jacketed bullet 223/5.56 loads along with 125 - 150 gr jacketed bullets in the 30-30 and 308Ws. With cast, H335 is excellent as long as you have the bullet mass and pressure level so it ignites and burns efficiently. With your 45-70 loads that's where you are.19 Aug 2019 ... ... 45-70 Gov ... Reloading 45-70. Lonesome outdoors•25K views ... The 45 Schofield With Trail Boss Powder - Loading For Linda: 3 Circles OPEN HOUSE ...Feb 20, 2010 · I recall that AA #5744 has .45-70 as one of the best calibers for this powder, why it was created. I have used it quite successfully in .30 cal's with cast boolits. SHiloh. Je suis Charlie. "A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." Bertrand de Jouvenel. Modern .45-70 Gov't. ... The 19th century black powder loads packed with 50 to 70 gr. of powder could propel a 405-gr. lead bullet at nominal velocities of 1,040 to 1,280 fps. generating between ...My rifle is a Henry 45-70 lever action and I am going to be using it, primarily for bears and whitetail. I am going to try the Barnes tsx this year but normally prefer the heavier bullets in a 45-70. The bullets I have stocked up on are: - 300 grain Barnes tsx. - 350 grain Hornady and 350 grain Trophy Bonded Bearclaws. - 405 grain hard cast.From what I can tell, Benchmarck is a little too slow to get the best velocities from a 405gr bullet. I'm sure it will do really well with the mid-400 grain range. 45-70 Loads. All loads used: Brass - Starline. Primer - Rem 9-1/2. Bullet - Remington 405 gr. Gun - Marlin Guide Gun - 18-3/4" barrel - 3x9 scope.In both my 45-70 and 45-120, I found Win 748 to be the best powder and, in my 30-30 too. I tried 4198 (H4198 only), H4895 and RE15, none of them …Sep 10, 2013 · 657. I have have an good, low pressure, accurate load using 26 grains of IMR SR4759 under a plain base 405 grain bullet for an average velocity of 1,301 fps at around 75 degrees. At around 38 degrees, the velocity drops to an average of 1,248 fps, but it is still very accurate. 09-10-2013, 01:16 PM #17. KirkD. 25. It was my assumption that this is the same powder used in the factory LeverRevolution loads for 44 mag and 45/70 since the names and artwork are the same. Hornady LeverRevolution factory ammo does in fact work quite nicely in my 44 mag and 45/70 guns. It appears this is not the same powder, but this is quite confusing on …At this time, a new cartridge was adopted, the .45-70 U.S Government. The .45-70 fired a .45 caliber 405 grain projectile over 70 grains of black powder for a muzzle velocity of roughly 1200fps. The official military designation of the new cartridge was the .45-70-405. Caliber was .458” (11.6mm) and rifling consisted of 1 turn in 20”.If you decide to shoot up the surplus powder in your 45-70, I'd start less than 20 grains using the cereal filler and see how things go. Might want to use a magnum rifle primer to ignite the hard to start powder if things work out but have unburnt powder in the bore. NRA Benefactor Member NRA Certified Police Firearms Instructor NRA Certified …Mar 5, 2020 · Black Powder Cartridge Rifle Silhouette matches started in 1985, and the .45-70 Gov't remains the most popular cartridge in that target game. The number of factory loads still available ... I have decided on the Speer 400 gr. slug and just need to settle on a couple powders and charges. I like AA2015, 5744 and RL7, and have those on ...Jul 30, 2020 · Winchester once loaded many versions of the basic .45-70 Government case with different bullet weights, shapes and black powder charges. It also loaded one variant of the .45-70-405 Winchester load expressly for the Marlin 1881 lever-action rifle. That load featured a differently shaped 405-grain bullet and was head-stamped “.45-70 Mar.” My rifle is a Henry 45-70 lever action and I am going to be using it, primarily for bears and whitetail. I am going to try the Barnes tsx this year but normally prefer the heavier bullets in a 45-70. The bullets I have stocked up on are: - 300 grain Barnes tsx. - 350 grain Hornady and 350 grain Trophy Bonded Bearclaws. - 405 grain hard cast.Just a light sprinkling of the rust-colored spice in the path of the ants is all it takes to keep them away! Expert Advice On Improving Your Home Videos Latest View All Guides Late...19570. The 5744 bottle states that it works on 45-70. I use 5744 in my Savage 10ML-II Muzzleloader and it works fine. ( Warning, do not use smokeless powder in any muzzleloader that is not designed to shoot smokeless!) 5744 is also used by 30-30 reloaders that shoot Lead Cast bullets.Treerat-sniper. Mar 7, 2020. #16. Many of the reloading manuals list trapdoor or cowboy loads for the .45/70, they're a good a place as any to start (your rifle will tell you what it likes). Some folks are fans of 5744 for reduced loads or "replica" bp loads.Jan 1, 2012 · Posted January 1, 2012. I've tried various powders in the 45-70 ... Reloder 7; Varget; 4198; and 5744. Of them, 5744 has given the best and most consistent results. The others left all kinds of unburnt grains in the bore and with low end loads were unsatisfactory performers. 16 Sept 2014 ... Shiloh Sharps 540 grain bullet over Black Powder.Jun 24, 2018 · Hodgdon pyrodex or 777 loads for .45/70. I'm planning on getting a Pedersolli Sharps in .45/70. I would like to use a BP substitute, mostly because of the UK laws about storing black powder. To use black powder I would have to get an explosives license and a special box to store the powder in. Some swear by black powder, others use Pyrodex or 777. 27 Sept 2018 ... 500gr pills in 45-70 and starting load of 50 grains of AR2208/Varget is a no go and I strongly suspect dangerous. At least for H&R chamber (New ...Re: Powder for medium 45-70 loads. by piller » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:15 pm. I use IMR 3031 for my trapdoor level loads in .45-70 since I always keep some on hand for my .30-30 loads. It has always given good results for me and I have not tried many other powders for those 2 cartridges due to good accuracy and ease of finding IMR 3031 even …All you can get in there, with the option of a few grains of some faster rifle powder next to the primer to get the whole thing lit off. H870 by itself in a 45-70 only manages about 900 fps. With 5 grains of 4759 or similar you can get about 1200 fps and a lot less unburnt powder being thrown around.2 Aug 2021 ... ... Powder - Hornady - MEC Outdoors - Primal Rights Ultimate Reloader partnerships involve one or more of the following: Product supplied for ...9 Sept 2023 ... A few months back...the first time on paper with the Browning 1885! The cast LEE 457-340F coated with IVC Silver provided by @mckwilly has a ...An armed man in a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject. A disarmed man is a slave. After trying a lot of different powders in the 45-70, and getting some spectacular results, I can assure you that 4198 is about as good as it gets. I've gotten as good results with Rel7 and 5744. They will all shoot 1moa off a good rest.27 Sept 2018 ... 500gr pills in 45-70 and starting load of 50 grains of AR2208/Varget is a no go and I strongly suspect dangerous. At least for H&R chamber (New .... At this time, a new cartridge was adopteThe .45-70 Government is a legendary centerfire Still below the max load according to Nosler. For 405gr Lead heads I use 40gr max of H4198. My rifle is a Browning made Winchester 1886, capable of handling the same loads as the Marlin 1895. I've found a table quoting that Viht N130 is an equivalent to 4198 so might look into that a bit further. 16 Sept 2014 ... Shiloh Sharps 540 grain bullet over 3777 posts · Joined 2012. #4 · Oct 22, 2020. IMR3031 is THE smokeless powder for the 45-70. I use it in my Pedersoli Springfield Trapdoor. I don't believe I use buffers except w/ black powder. Member: Orange Gunsite Family, NRA-Life, the American Legion, and 50-year LEO w/ a 45ACP 1911. All my 1911s are in .45ACP & 10mm.Active Member. May 12, 2020. #14. Exactly, 12 grains of Unique works in the 45/70 with all bullets I cast and shoot in my Marlin 1895. (Made by Remington, oh no!) Photo attached shows two of the bullets with 12 grains of Unique, top group of five is the NOE 405 FP, lower Ideal 457122 HP both sized .459 with Ben’s Red. .45-70 Government (1886 Winchester and 1895 Marli...
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